B Kliban Feedback From Real People
(the internet did use to have real people on it)
Fan One
As a longtime Kliban fan (since college in the 70s), I concur with the
majority of the positive reviews of Kliban’s work, on general principle
alone. Just as many stand-up comics from the early 70s onward owe a
huge debt to Lenny Bruce, so do Gary Larson and others owe B. Kliban.
Big time. I still laugh myself silly over Kliban’s work. All of it.
However, I must take polite exception to your lumping all WebTV users
together with the idiot who doesn’t care for Kliban. Some of us opted
for WebTV as a cheap alternative to ditching our otherwise perfectly
good antique computers, and I haven’t noticed that accessing the
internet via computer demonstrates a particular degree of good taste or
wit.
Must run—the tabby is getting out her guitar, and I’ve got to sing
along.
[Second Email From Same Reader]
Looked briefly at your site, and will return soon to spend more time.
You’re either a good bit younger than I or you write that way. One of
my fondest memories of experiencing Lenny Bruce’s work was sitting in my
friend Andrea’s basement thirty-five years ago, with Andrea, Emily, and
Susanne, reading aloud to each other from a paperback copy of How to
Talk Dirty and Influence People and laughing ourselves silly. (We were
in grade school, but had parents with very hip book and record
collections.)
As for Woody Allen, it’s all to easy to forget the brilliant standup
work of his early days, especially with the dreary crap he’s been
turning out over the past few years. But he was indeed brilliant. What
else would you expect from a man so neurotic that he actually fed coins
into a pay phone for fifty minutes three times a week so he could
continue his analysis while filming on location?
Fan Two
Hey man, thanks for the Kliban reprints. Please don’t put my name up on your
web page but do consider me a fellow fan if you ever need resources or moral
support for a Kliban project...
Best wishes,
Chris (censored)
What do you think? Why do you suppose this guy wants his name removed?
Can anyone out there think of a good reason? If you’re curious about this strange phenomenon, here’s another flaming example.
Fan Three
I was very, very happy to see your web page on Hap Kliban. I first fell in love with his special style when I saw in Playboy his cartoon depicting a patient in a doctor’s office sitting nude from the waist up on a stool with the doctor listening to his heart and using, instead of a stethoscope, a goose with one foot in each ear and the beak on the patient’s chest. The caption was “One of us, Mr. Barrows, is a very sick man.” My next favorite was the group of tourists standing near a tree on one of whose branches was hanging an upside down skeleton of a man in a cowboy hat playing the banjo next to the skeleton of a 6-foot fish. The caption (coming from the mouth of a tour guide) was something like “. . . and here is where one of the most unique events in history took place.”
I felt strongly compelled to write him a letter c/o Playboy telling him just how special his humor was. He responded by immediately mailing me some of his cartoons which I framed and which still adorn the walls in my home. One which I particularly love depicts a nude man obviously in his apartment, dressed in the costume of a fish holding a can of paint in one hand and a paint brush in the other, and hovering over a frightened woman who is exclaiming “So, Marshall, this is why you brought me up here!” He was clearly the best ever.
Stu Katz
And Later
P.S. In the cartoon I described that Kliban sent to me, I neglected one important detail. The guy with the paintbrush wearing a fish suit was also wearing roller skates.
Fan Five
I have collected kliban art since the 70’s. I would like to find a source to
get more kliban "stuff". please add my name to the "for Kliban".
thanks
Fan Six
Larson is way conventional compared to BK. - JP (Morgan?)
Fan Seven
Following up references to B. Kliban, I stumbled across your site and liked
it very much. Would much appreciate any further links you might have to
Kliban (Do you know anybody who knew anybody wgho knew him?) as I am writing
a feature about him for the Independent newspaper of Great Britain, it being
the 10th anniversary of his death and the 25th anniversary of the
publication of Cat. In return, I leave the following offering. 6/00 MP (Minister of Parliament?)
[offering edited out]
Fan Eight
Hi:
The gallery is back up, and I may have made a convert thereby: I have always believed it the right thing to do to duplicate what’s out of print: thanks, and thanks for the return post.
B.K. fan since age 8 (or so):
-Mark
ps: as art is eternal, we should be glad to wait for a few weeks at a time while archives like this are down, for the sake of their free nature. This ain’t e-bay (praise "Bob"!) 8/00 MWS (mini-window-sill?)
Fan Nine (Gentleman Jim)
pics/Bkgringo.jpg
should be
pics/bkgringo.jpg
But beyond that, running across your site is the best accident I’ve had
in a long long time. Thank you!
jim g.9/00
Fan Ten
Fresh air.. hm, only if you’ve been under a rock for a few years. But
never mind. I was drawn to your site by the name of Kliban, Lord of Cats
and Watermelon; stayed for the unfortunate discussion of the one named
Colleen. Fell for the vapid vote-thing like the damned sheep I am, no
less excused to find I fell in with the majority, though I suspect (if
only out of some fuzzy-minded self-effacing conceit) only because it was
the last option on the list, and therefore held the most sticking power,
like a stale Post-It, transported by rheumatic camel across the Andes in
an unpadded steel box with a case of maple syrup, to find much the same
fate as my beloved stuffed squirrel which arrived in England in the same
condition.. And why? Because they don’t have any freaking maple trees in
England, that’s why.. Anyway, thanks for an amusing site. Keep it up.
M.A.
Fan Eleven
I have, I think, understood the 'High Difficulty' Kliban cartoon at pics/bkpig.gif since "Two Guys"'initial
publication.
The cartoon, which is indeed 'high difficulty', parodies a genre of
single-panel cartoon in which a character is speaking, but there is no
caption or word balloon. In this genre, which is quaintly antique at this
time (or even in Kliban’s heyday 20 years ago), the situation portrayed is
always one in which we can assume the speaking character’s words, because
the situation is stock, classic, well-known — for example, a little boy
who has batted a ball through a window, a wife who has come home to find
her husband passionately engaged with another woman, etc. The activity
portrayed with the pig, funnel, and shoe, however, is constructed to
purposefully defy explanation — we therefore -cannot- comprehend or
imagine what the man is saying, which is a prerequisite for this genre of
cartoon.
If there were a slang/folk expression "oh, go pour it in a pig’s posterior
and beat it with a shoe!", then we might imagine the man ridiculing his
wife who took the expression too literally—-but there is no such
expression. The joke is in the parody of the form, and the conventions of
the form, that the untitled, uncaptioned cartoon purports to represent.
The cartoon is a brilliant piece of work, which, like much of the late
genius’ oeuvre, explores and lampoons the conventions of cartooning
itself, and dabbles in quasi-Gödelian self-reference: the gag is not in
the situation which is presented, but the very fact of its presentation.
Bernard S. Greenberg
We asked a leading scientist for his professional opinion.
Hmm, well I think the guy is basically right. The only thing I could add is
that the man’s gesture seems to indicate, "that’s enough" and his smile and
relaxed attitude indicates that this is a familiar operation for them.
That will be enough cartoon analysis for now.
Take care, Peter
Peter Hornsby, Ph.D.
Professor of Molecular and Cellular Biology and Fan Twelve
Baylor College of Medicine
Fan Thirteen
Kliban is a cult. You obviously get it. A small circle of friends of
mine that go back to school days have had our entire
artistic-intellectual-comedic worldview shaped by this guy, and his
genius is virtually unknown. I appreciate your promotion of this
underrecognized genius.
Thanks,
Nils
And again...
Larson has his moments, but he’s not in the same league. Like most
commerically successful cartoonists, Larson’s practically a one-joke
guy. Here’s something I wrote about Kliban that I submitted to
Amazon.com:
Kliban’s genius lies in the fact that he was always more than a
cartoonist (as his satirical pictures of cartoonists made clear); he was
a surreal visionary of quotidian absurdity. I remember when I discovered
Kliban. (Doubtless every fan remembers this moment, because it was a
moment when his whole comic universe shifted irrevocably.) It was the
night I turned fifteen: at my birthday party, a friend gave me The
Biggest Tongue in Tunisia. None of us had ever heard of Kliban - my
friend had bought it on a whim - but as three of us sat there in the
corner and read the book together, we began to laugh, then to howl, and
finally to cry; then we read it again; and again. The next week I
brought it school and soon we had memorized every drawing in the book.
Over the years what can only be described as a Kliban cult developed
among my circle of friends, where we would delight in observing
"Klibanesque" moments in the so-called "real" world. Fifteen years
later, we still take pleasure in citing Kliban at appropriate moments. I
remember once sitting in Pamplona, Spain, competing for an hour with a
friend to see who could cite more Kliban cartoons; we finally declared a
truce. Kliban was a seer - his humor caused you to realize that real
world was actually more bizarre than even the biggest trippers had ever
realized; in a way, his cartoons were perfectly postmodern: the more you
read them, the more they began to seem realistic and the usual attempts
to depict reality began to seem fraudulent. Like good philosophy and bad
drugs, it was only once you get into the habit that you realized you
couldn’t (and didn’t want to) escape. Quintessentially visual, Kliban’s
humor was unexcelled at what might be described as visual wordplay. How
can one possibly explain the humor of comparing "cucumbers and
asparagus" with a "cumbersome apparatus"? (As Kliban observed with
mock-paranoia, it was "More than a coincidence.") Only someone too
comfortable with reality could fail to see the hilarity of his bizarre
juxtaposition of peculiar vegetables with a nonsensical mechanism.
Kliban’s humor instructed me to observe sublimity in everyday banality.
Just the other day I had a Kliban Experience: driving past a Hardw store
in Oakland, CA, I observed an obscenely fat man sitting on the back of
an empty pickup truck with a huge, badly painted sign that read "Free
Bricks." It wasn’t funny by itself, but when I thought of Kliban
painting than scene, I almost had a fit. Kliban had worldview - and it
was far more profoundly, insightfully, and savagely disturbed than the
puerile animal fantasies of Gary Larson. Kliban awaits rediscovery - one
day in the future, his fiendish genius will be recognized as on par with
Andy Warhol. One day some enterprising young art historian will make her
name explaining Kliban. If the weirder things get, the more you enjoy
them, then Kliban is cartoonist for you.
Nils Gilman
Can I just say that that was sweet.
Fan Fourteen
Dear Bacon:
Thank you for providing a wonderful selection of Kliban’s cartoons for
others to enjoy. I typed "Kliban" in the search engine hoping to find a
poster or two, and was lucky enough to come across your site.
I can vividly remember the day in 1976 that I went to the mall with my
younger brother (I was 21, he 18) and, browsing in a bookstore, came upon the
book "Cat". The two of us sat in a corner and devoured the book, laughing
non-stop. A few months later he presented me with a copy for my birthday
(including a photo of me at age 10 sitting with our own cat, taped to the
inside cover) and personalized with notes he had annotated to various
drawings. It is still one of my most prized possessions.
Re: the Guest Explanations to "No Idea" from "Two Guys Fooling
Around..." : I commend Bernard S. Greenberg (Fan Eleven) and Peter Hornsby, Ph.D. for their erudite and entertaining analysis. It’s a rare pleasure to come across writing that is intelligent, wry and insightful (and unexpected, in such a transient setting). "Oh, go pour it in a pig’s posterior and beat
it with a shoe!" may not be an actual expression, but it should be. One of
the greatest things about art is that everyone who views it sees something
different - no right or wrong, just varying perceptions. Mr. Greenberg saw a
man bemusedly teasing his wife; Mr. Hornsby added that the man indicated
"that’s enough", in a relaxed attitude indicative of familiar operation for
them. My take is somewhat different - although the man is smiling, he does
not seem relaxed. He appears eager to please, but almost embarrassed. She,
on the other hand, although apparently offering him a swine infused beverage
of some sort, looks bored, annoyed, and secretly wishing he would refuse
further refreshments (which, credit Mr. Hornsby, he is) and leave. My gut
reaction is that this is a couple on a first date (note her dress and his
suit - a husband would probably at least have removed the jacket after coming
home from the office before sitting down to relax with a sparkling glass of
pig swill). She realizes there’s no way there’s going to be a second date
(he senses this too), but still feels obliged to observe the niceties such an
awkward situation requires. But hey, maybe I’m reading way too much into
this (which is half the fun!).
I look forward to perusing the rest of your website.
Sincerely,
Kathy Whitney
I hope this won’t be awkward, but since you emailed, I was wondering if you might be interested in going out for some dinner and a movie?
Fan Fifteen
Enjoyed reading information on the Kliban site. Have been a long time fan of his illustrations, have most of his books, multiple copies of his Cat Art books. Have collected all the Cat Theme calendars that have come out the last 4 or 5 years. His humor was and is still so unique, that you can still look at any of his illustrations and find new twists..he truly was not appreciated enough when he was among us. Thanks for keeping the site up. Patty
Fan Sixteen
Hi, I found your site when looking for info on Kliban, and noticed that your
selection of cartoons has the section "found on the Internet", and I have the
books they’re from.
I found them in a book store called Myopic while in Chicago. They had a few
copies of each.
In the store I found an oldish edtion of Cat, but more interestingly Tiny
Footprints, Whack Your Porcupine, and Never Eat Anything Bigger Than Your
Head.
The "Internet" pics are certainly in those three books, but the Biggest
Tongue and Two Guys ones are new to me.
Do you already have all this lot, or are you interested in getting some scans?
Cheers,
John Walker
Fan Seventeen
Hi Martin,
Out of a feeling of indebtedness, I’ve been recently searching for
information on B. Kliban and came across your biography. I was saddened to
hear that he is no longer with us. I cartoon for a living now and his books
are still my bibles of inspiration. I have been a great Kliban fan since the
seventies when I, like yourself, 'stumbled' across him.
I appreciated your well-written biography and found it most informative,
but there is one needling point that I have been unable to come up with and
perhaps you could help me: How did he die?
Thank you so much. I would welcome any other anecdotal information about
him you may wish to share.
Regards,
Eric Jones
London, Ontario
Fan Eighteen
"Tail" explanation on this Kliban...This is the fourth blind mouse that didn’t have his tail cut off with a carving knife and we see him experiencing the pain of survivor syndrome. "Why didn’t it happen to me?" Argh!!
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